Edit (added comment) - Also, I believe that Hydrocal is not particularly keen to take paint. Trains. Hydrocal is stronger as compared to plaster of Paris. While hydrocal is easier to work with when it comes to posting casting projects, ultracal is more durable. Our supplier has the plaster in 99# bags. Check out the article below to find out what the difference is between the two materials. Dental Stone is is also calcium sulfate Hemihydrate, but it is created at a higher temperature and under pressure. Cycling. It's just more expensive than Ultracal, and lacks a few additives. Once they have set and are fully fried, they have the best strength. Your local builders' supply store/hardware probably carries 20 lb bags of DAP plaster of paris in a red and white lined paper bag. This supplier may also carry masonry supplies. I had mixed results with plaster of Paris, I assume because the various suppliers grades differ. Micro Mark has a very attractively priced Hydrocal offering (compared with WS). I truly believe that all you have to do is 'wet' your mold down. Unless you have a portable layout,I don't see where weight would be a problem unless I'm overlooking somethingcomments? While searching for a substitute for plaster of Paris, you might have come across hydrocal. You can check out the article for useful tips and ideas that you can refer to when working with plaster of Paris. I stopped using much plaster cloth after I discovered foam scenery. It's the same stuff that is used to make casts for broken bones etc.and it works just fine. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. This will prevent air bubbles and will also create a uniform and smooth surface. So far, it is strong. You need to be careful in pouring the slurry to prevent air entrainment and also to have a uniform and smooth surface. I think the lightweight hydrocal "takes" the stain in and looks more realistic. As compared to most plasters, hydrocal is stronger. I can only tell you what I know.. and what I do. (on the backside of the casting). You can also check out this article that we have shared that discusses how to make plaster of Paris stronger. If you want the cast to be completely cured before you remove it from the mold, wait until it feels dry and warm. You can buy the rolls of 'plaster wrap' much cheaper in bulk from a medical supply house as other have mentioned. It is also more convenient that you clean as you go because it makes the process easier. Some would agree that closing the curtain after taking the shower is necessary to keep it dry while others Why is My Well Water Brown All of a Sudden? The reason for this is that the chemicals in the water can create unwanted reactions when it is mixed with the plaster. Most of the time, we choose a material for the project that we are working thinking that it is an excellent choice, only to find out in the end that the material is not the correct one. You need to let it soak for about one to two minutes. We have shared helpful tips and ideas that you can refer to. -Crandell Reply HHPATH56 Member since March 2007 947 posts You can find a wide array of plaster for every kind of application. You might be washing the dishes when all of a sudden brown water comes out of the faucet and makes you wonder what causes it. The amount of ultracal that is used and its ratio with the water as well as the mixing process can also affect its setting time. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. I buy somebody else's Hydrocal in a big jar. Ballast - Most of the Woodland Scenics ballast appears to be crushed walnut shells(or something close). Plaster that sloughs off can lead to dusting and chipping. Thank you for reading! I guess.. when you stir the spoon.. as it is in the pic.. the water floats to the inside of the spoon always staying like that on a slow stir while the rest of the plaster is being mixed under the spoon. Why?> When you're done.. and the plaster is dried to your bowl.. just add water.. look closely at the bow.. you'll see a thin film of plaster.. that just slides up and off the rim of the bow. This website is strictly for entertainment purposes. Always do your own research before making important decisions. They can harden and cause the pipes to clog. Repair your plaster walls with this DAP 25 lbs. Leaving the shower curtain open or closed has long been a debate for a lot of people. Then I knew.. Mixing glue into the plaster of Paris mixture will make it more durable and strong. To avoid splashing the mixture, use the stirring stick as a guide when pouring the hydrocal into the molds. Display as a link instead, However I've heard comments that it is to heavy. It is 30 to 50 percent harder as compared to other casting plaster. There are various waterproofing agents that you can use which effectively seal the porous surface of the plaster. Decorating is poetry. On the other hand, it is still a plaster that is heavy, dense, and can shatter when dropped. When painting the plaster into the mold.. It is ideal that you wait at least a week. We hope that this article has helped you learn more about hydrocal and help you get ready for your next sculpting or molding project. It has a similar formula as hydrostone, duracal, and ultracal. To me plaster of paris is easier to work with and cheaper. The ratio of the two ingredients is important because it affects the physical properties of the cast piece. Stop when the powder is almost covering the surface of the water. Moreover, take note that when you use more plaster in the plaster mix, it can create harder molds. For casting of any molds Hydrocal can't be beat. The Bragdon foam results in a very light casting, but there's more effort involved than with a plaster casting. You have reached the end of this article that discusses the difference between hydrocal and plaster and Paris. Bob Hahn. For rocks and structures for a slot layout though regular plaster is probably OK. Save. Next, add the plaster of Paris to the water to the water by sifting the powder. I am not 'bashing' Woodland Scenics, but there are other sources for these scenic items. After sifting the powder, do not start mixing yet. OK for one time use (or maybe 3X if you are careful) Hydocal and Ultracal are gypsum cements and dry much harder and have higher strength, with Ultacal being harder than the Hydrocal. When heated, the calcium sulfate loses some of its water content. You first need to tap the side of the container to disperse the powder and also to remove air bubbles. Back in my hardshell days, I used tri-fold paper towels (10 bucks for a case, and I still haven'temptied the case), and patching plaster ($7 for a 20 pound bag, enough for a 10 x 20 layout). This material is suitable for many color pigments. Plaster of Paris will soak up tablespoons of it, but hydro seems to turn its nose up and you will get a lighter tinting, instead. I find Plaster of Paris too soft, and subject to scratches and breakage. Step 3: Add Plaster to the Mixture. Moreover, how long you mix the slurry will affect the setting time. Smack it on the table. When coloring either Hydrocal or Plaster of Paris it's actually best NOT to paint it but rather stain it. This article discusses if hydrocal is stronger than plaster of Paris. Ultracal is stringer and harder as compared to hydrocal. They Adding either Plaster of Paris or Hyrdocal to make a smooth surface should not be a problem, I have done it both ways lots of times. Generally, the crystals form a structure in the plaster that provides it strength. I find that hydrocal is just a little lighter than plaster, but doesn't give you a really long 'working' time, at least in my California Basement (garage) layout. Ideal for hollow and solid casting applications to create figurines, moldings and plaques We hope to inspire you. The powdered dye is added to the dry plaster to approximate end color of choice. I used the finer plaster of paris for rock castings. Make sure that you read and follow the handling and directions on how to use hydrocal according to what is written in the package. Same here, and my basement is a haven for all types of arthropodsa good thing since it keeps the distaff upstairs most often. When exposed to a temperature that is higher than this, hydrocal will start to calcinate. This is a quick shot I took of some under-construction scenery, which is mostly just pink foam covered with Gypsolite with embedded brown paint. Hydrocal has excellent strength which helps lessen breakage when the plaster cast is removed from the mold. A great utility gypsum cement offering higher strengths than typical plaster products. Hydrocal White is versatile gypsum cement that is an excellent choice for making solid and hollow castings. What is plaster of Paris? a rock and gravel company maybe? The next step that you need to do is to measure the ingredients. Avoid pouring all the powder into the water. I believe it helps. but I dont think they are woodland scenics.but it seems to work fine. Let us learn more about this below. So that makes the P-of-P 66 cents a pound and the H-Lite $4.25 a pound. We have also shared this article that discusses if perfect cast is the same as plaster of Paris. Order Ascending; Order Descending; willy6. Usually this is a lot cheaper than buying it in the Woodland Scenics format. Waterproofing plaster of Paris is important especially if you will use it outdoors. I find Hydrocal is better for making rock castings. Just my opinionTim. On the other hand, hydrocal is a casting plaster that does an excellent job when it comes to holding detail. I have poured large faces of rocks.. using less and less dental plaster. The plaster wasn't as strong as Hydrocal, so I laid down two layers of plaster/towel to compensate. We have shared tips and ideas about the topic that you can refer to. As compared to ultracal, hydrocal is softer so you can be able to work on it longer. Another friend loves lightweight hydrocal. Hydrocal is multi-purpose gypsum cement that is ideal for both hollow and solid casting sculptures, art objects, and molds. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I've also used Bragdon Foam with a Bragdon mold. I have already commited about $2500 on wood for this train set, 2 loomotives, some cars, construction insulating foam, paints, paint brushes track, power supplies hehehwhy am I telling you all this, you all know how it works well my wad of cash is gone so im now ready to do things the cheapest way. Hydrocal White. The best plaster mix is the one wherein the plaster particles completely dissolve in the water. Paste as plain text instead, Then apply one more coat of plaster.. followed by one big patch of plaster cloth to the mold.. for added strength. I would be interested in others experience with hydrocal. We had the "pleasuer" of having Jeff Adam of Motrac Models as a club member. Light and strong. Is there a difference between hydrocal and ultracal? Hydrocal is also compatible with many color pigments. Cooking. When working with hydrostone, immediately do surface clean-up on demolding as it will continue to harden for several hours thereafter. Step 1: Use portable water between 70 to 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Decorating is poetry. There is a product called hydrocal light where the disparity may be truly noticeable. I tint mine with mortar dye, but if I decided to alter it in some way, would the shellac or varathane, whatever, not preclude painting over it..or will acrylics "take"? Strictly my O/P as some doe paint hydrocal to seal it first. link to Should You Leave Your Shower Curtain Open or Closed? Pour 1 cup of water into the mixing bowl. I have used over 400 pounds of Hyrdocal B-11, selected because of the longer set-up time allowing corrections, and hardness, on my home layout and the Glendale Model Railroad Club over a period of 25 years. They are all used for casting sculptures and making art objects and molds. The next step is mixing. Hydrocal and ultracal are gypsum cement and both have different properties. You can use various object to obtain many different rock faces.. to obtain.. a curve.. a gradual incline or what ever. It might be Scenic Express. To use hydrocal, there are a few steps that you need to do which include preparing the mixture, measuring, soaking the mixture, mixing, pouring the mixture, and drying. The last step is drying. Make sure to break up any lumps that form in the mixture using a spoon. Ah to make this very short. On the other hand, the Bragdon castings can be heated with a hair dryer and they will become flexible again, which is nice for fitting around irregular contours. It is the perfect choice for making a solid and hollow casting of figurines, general sculptures, and commercial casts. Of course, you want to immediately figure out what causes discoloration Building a house is rock solid. Check out the rest of the article below to learn more about the materials. Leaving the shower curtain open or closed has long been a debate for a lot of people. This website is strictly for entertainment purposes. Another reason why it is ideal to use hydrocal and ultracal is that they do not crack. Plaster of paris and cement are about the same price, you just have to buy twice as much for twice the price- even this is usually cheaper than going straight for the quality products. You should use some kind of tiles regardless of the type of plaster, ceramic or glass tiles. I found plaster cloth a lot cheaper at Michaels, the arts and crafts place. Like Jeff, I also userigid closed cell insulation for cast forms. But in short using the hyrdrocal/dental plaster. Hydrocal vs. Plaster of Paris 50312 views. Patching Compound -- Made with calcium sulphate, limestone and crystalline quartz, patching compound sets in about 20 minutes and makes durable repairs on wood . I had to chisel some off the sides to remove the cast. Should You Leave Your Shower Curtain Open or Closed? He specializes in some fantastic castings. . On the other hand, you should add drops of lemon juice if you want to slow the drying time. But in my honest opinion you cut down on the bubbles. I pour less.. and use a clothstrip on the back for added strength. It is soft, even when cured and is not very strong. We have shared tips and ideas that you can refer to. How do you prepare plaster of Paris? The pictures below are of a Hydrocal High Arched PRR prototype stone viaduct that I've been working on the past week or so. I tried use of colors mixed in the Hydrocal, and found that enough color to make any appreciable difference weakened the mixture after set-up, and any lesser amount resulted in pastel, not colored, rocks. On the other hand, it is still a plaster that is heavy, dense, and can shatter when dropped. Real rock ballast is much better. This creates uniform slurry. Thanks for your reply. I wanted its superior strength. If you use plaster for the head cast, expect to rebuild the ears. Ultracal is a good choice if your work needs accuracy and a good amount of surface hardness. It is water-soluble so it is easier to clean. I have used both and I color my rock castings with diluted acrylics. They can be set at about 25 to 35 minutes. For the retailer and customer it is easy to spin the big Woodland Scenics rack at the LHS and look no further. How Long Does it Take for Hydrocal to Cure? But, Jeffrey, would that not make the plaster essentially impossible to paint? Pasted as rich text. Alternatives that you can choose from if you do not want to use plaster of Paris includes mixing lime and water, soy powder and water, chalk and water, and acrylic undercoat. It discusses what ultracal is. We have also shared this article thatdiscusses what happens if plaster of Paris gets wet. Wearing gloves is also recommended. Some LHS's carry these lines, others you have to mail order from. It is considered the strongest and hardest gypsum cement available. You seldom need plaster of Paris to patch drywall. For instance, shorter mixing times will allow the plaster to set slowly. We hope to inspire you. Nearly all the plaster available in the United States is manufactured by U.S. Gypsum, (USG). If you want it to be thoroughly cured before de-molding, you need to wait until it feels warmish and dry. Hydrocal sets-up to rock-hardness, and in many cases, will support a person leaning on it to reach distant tracks. I use 'Dental Plaster' its cheaper.. and I believe the same as Hydrocal. 1 Casting Plaster. Hydrocal is my preference for molded outcrops, since it is tough. Grinding is a cave mans job, even the most simple tools will do. We have found out that hydrocal is stronger than plaster of Paris and can also take a lot of detail. Hydrocal is waterproof. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, It demonstrates mixing tips for white hydrocal. It can also take a lot of details and does not slough off. (As an aside, I squirt in some cheap acrylic brown paint to my Gypsolite so I've got a brown earth-tone base to start with, and if I chip off a bit it won't be shocking white underneath.). BUT. (there's that but again), make sure it's the slower setting type. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. In my last case, I had to do a full cast of the cello back attached to ribs and table. If you use open cell foam (styrofoam) for a castform, you're going to bein trouble trying to free the cast from the form. Wash the molds on the sink. Many good LHS's will buy the bulk bags and re-package it themselves into smaller bags. I don't know why.. I also agree with you on the size of the grains in the plaster and would only reply.. "You think a Dentists wants a grainy 'impression' of someone's teeth"? They soak up moisture, float, and even grow mold in some enviroments. While hydrocal is easier to work with when it comes to posting casting projects, ultracal is more durable. Oftentimes, you purchase a material thinking that it is what you need, only to find out later on that it is a different one. Ultracal can be used in a wide array of applications. This is to make sure that the slurry evenly flows across the surface of the mold. In some instances, the glue will float on top of the water. Hydrocal is mainly composed of plaster of Paris and a small amount of Portland cement. For a lot of info dealing with home vacuum forming, check out As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. With the many plaster materials that are available on the market, it is vital that you know what you are working with. I agree with A. Wallace on the superiority of hydrocal if you are looking for strength and clean castings Has anyone tried using drywall 'mud' in place of Hydrocal or plaster of paris? In the video, how to mix and use ultracal is discussed. Shake off the excess water and lay the molds on the table to the floor. The downside of Hydrocal is that it does not carve or take stains/washes very well. We have also shared this article that discusses what hydrocal is made of. Now all I do is, just paint a 1/4 thickness of plaster.. lay in a cloth strip and done. The difference between hydrocal and plaster of Paris is that hydrocal is stronger. If you think you have it right, your standards are too low. Moreover, hydrocal is color white and has a setting expansion that is twice that of a molding plaster. Posted 11 May 2017 - 09:42 AM. If this is the only foam you have at your disposal, you can line the form with packing tape. If I waited until the next day.. I am really looking to spend less. link to Why is My Well Water Brown All of a Sudden? Plaster of Paris is an ideal material to use for craft and sculpture projects. Shake the bubbles out and level of the castings. Hydrocal doesn't take paint easily. Plaster of Paris is gypsum plaster that is made from a fine white powder that hardens when it is moistened and dried. I have bought the real and the woodlandI mixed them and liked the effect. Regardless of how hard to try to create a strong and hard cast from the plaster of Paris, it is still plaster that is brittle and vulnerable to breakage. discusses what happens if plaster of Paris gets wet, discusses if plaster of Paris is flammable, how long does it take for hydrocal to cure, discusses how to make plaster of Paris stronger, discusses what the difference is between hydrocal and ultracal. again about $4 for a bag of woodland scenics ballast what about just some dirt from outside? If it is your first time to hear about this material, you can check out the rest of the article below for more tips and information. During the process, it is ground up into a powder form and then heated. Besides.. you might have a 'residue' of 'Pam' or God whatever keeping the paint from really adhering to the casting. How do you prepare plaster of Paris? To help you get started, we will discuss the differences between both materials below. Hydrocal white is my preferred casting medium, mostly because I know how it "works." is this normal? Hydrocal is stronger as compared to plaster of Paris. Be careful about spilling the plaster dust, as it is a pain to get it up without it blowing . Follow the instructions on the label on how to mix the hydrocal. Hydrocal is mainly composed of plaster of Paris with a small amount of Portland cement. Hydrostone are commonly used in tooling and high-quality art object application. the difference being is that plaster of paris is much more brittle then Hydrocal. How do you prepare hydrocal? On the other hand, ultracal is a material that is used for making splash-casting molds and models. On the other hand, if you do not want the plaster to be a little wet so that you can easily clean it up after demolding, you can take it out as soon as it does not dent or get squished when you scrape it with a toothpick or a metal pin. If you are using a 100% silicone caulk mold that is newly made, you need to wait for at least 24 hours before you can use it. This material is specifically designed for thin sections. Aside from that, it also takes a lot more detail. All casts must be dried as quickly as possible so that they can develop maximum physical properties. You need to mix the plaster carefully to avoid adding air. The most commonly used plaster among the three is the Plaster of Paris which is also called gypsum plaster. Scrape the excess plaster off with s metal straight edge to achieve a nice smooth back on the castings. If you find you like rock face and stone wall castings, you might also look at Bragdon Enterprises. link to Why is My Well Water Brown All of a Sudden? I believe these are offered commercialy now. Check out the article for more information about the topic. Mix the plaster into the water before adding the glue. While we strive to provide quality information, we cannot guarantee its accuracy. Pour 2 cups of plaster of Paris into the mixture. The difference between hydrocal and plaster of Paris is that hydrocal is stronger. As compared to plastic, plaster can easily break especially if it is dropped. Video Lifecasting Tutorial: Mixing Hydrocal Plaster. Thank you for reading! For instance, it is ideal for making a hollow and solid casting of sculptures, figurines, and commercial casts. WHITE HYDROCAL - Used for making plaster objects, a neutral gypsum cement having a normal set of 25 minutes. It would do so after priming. What is the Difference between Hydrocal and Plaster of Paris? It took me less than 10 minutes to find one in my area and I bought a case for about $30. While hydrocal is an excellent product, it is usually sold in really small packages and can be expensive. I would not be able to breakit up.. its that strong. We have also shared tips and ideas for both materials. Mix them until the glue is thoroughly dissolved in water. TimModeling the NYCis there any other? USG Hydrocal White Gypsum Cement is designed for solid and hollow casting and is ideal for giftware and lamp base applications. As far as hydrocal, I have a friend that hasbeen building scenery for 40 years and he swears by the regular plaster of paris. We have also learned the difference between a hydrocal and plaster of Paris. Some say the difference is in the component while others say that there is no difference at all. I used Hydrocal White for many years with no seriouscomplaints, but more recently have been using a product called Tecstone (It's a dental plaster). Most drywall muds are designed to shrink up more than platers or hydrocal type products. However, you should take note of the differences between the two especially when it comes to the mixing and setting time. I dont' think that is my approach. Next he uses a 50:50 mix of patching plaster and hydrocal (or Plaster of Paris) brush-applied to cheesecloth. Allowing the first coat to dry overnight, two more coats one hour apart are enough to make a firm scenery base. Is Hydrocal stronger than plaster of Paris? For easy and convenient shopping, you can look at online stores for a wide array of products that you can choose from. can I get this stuff in bulk? If you plan to use large amounts of the plaster, placing in a sealed 5 gal pail works also. . Once you have measured the ingredients, you need to soak them. what is the difference between hydrocal and plaster of Paris. #1 MOULDING PLASTER - Often referred to as "plaster of paris" or soft plaster. I tried some WS lite weight hydrocal, but it was no better than PofP and cost WAY more. It also has a darker color than the plaster I use, so I figured it could affect the final outcome of the colors of washes I planned on using on my rockwork. Combining both ingredients cuts the setting time shorter. It is extremely non-chip, and molds well. Hydrocal cures to a very hard stone like surface, where Plaster of Paris stays very soft and almost chalky. What is plaster of Paris? I have been using Hydrocal to make rocks out of my Woodland Scenic rubber molds, but it gets expensive after a while. like a sponge. Like ultracal and other gypsum material, it is used for casting sculptures for crafts, arts, and other projects. Make sure that the hydrocal is completely dispersed in water before mixing. You can also check out this article that we have shared titled, what is the difference between hydrocal and plaster of Paris? It might add up over many castings applied to a significant layout, but I'd bet it doesn't add up to more than maybe five or six pounds once it is dry and in place on most layouts. Fast-setting alpha gypsum cement designed for strong, resilient glass-reinforced product fabrication. Hydrocal can take about 24 hours or more to cure depending on how thick it is made. It is made for thin sections and is also more durable so there is minimal breakage during mold removal. I wanted to know what is the difference? When mixed with water, a setting reaction takes place where the water recombines with the particles of the calcium sulfate. a 10 pound box of this hydrocal was I think 10 bucks..so 1 dollar a pound. I picked it up off the floor.. looked for chips.. cracks.. nothing. Plaster molds can also be used to cast wax, if the mold is well-soaked beforehand. Hydrocal vs Light weight Hydrocal vs Plaster of Paris and Ballast. I have made a lot of rock castings with this mix and have had good results with this mix. When it comes to mixing plaster and water, there are a few steps that should be done. We have shared the step-by-step methods on how to mix glue with the plaster. I use 2 parts plaster of paris to 1 part water. Member since January 2003; From: Ridgeville,South Carolina; 1,294 posts Hydrocal vs. Plaster of Paris. Let us learn more about these steps below. Ultracal is specially designed for strength and casting detail. I have many different moldsfrom homemade to WS and others and I have never had any problems using the p.o.p. It discusses the materials and process of plaster casting. We hope to inspire you. Beats the heck out of Walmart prices/unit weight/volume. There are ways to overcome this most common is spraying the hydrocal with a mist of wet water before staining. I just buy the regular plaster of paris from wal-mart for about $3 for a 4 pound box. You can mechanically mix hydrocal by batch and continuous processes. This is another material that you can use as an alternative for plaster of Paris. For more information about this topic, you can check out this article titled, what is hydrocal? You might be washing the dishes when all of a sudden brown water comes out of the faucet and makes you wonder what causes it. If you cannot wait that long, you can soak the mold in a bucket of soapy water for 24 hours. For a more in-depth discussion about this topic, you can check out this article that we have shared titled, what is hydrocal? Strictly my O/P as some doe paint hydrocal to seal it first. The first step is measuring. Hydrocal doesn't take paint easily. This is the result of using a flashlight. Is that about right? Mixing ultracal with water produces a chemical reaction. The castings can set in about 15 to 20 minutes. Kc Bodycasting shared the video below on YouTube. You can also check out this article that we have shared that discusses what the difference is between hydrocal and ultracal. We have shared tips and ideas that you can refer to. P.S.- although I do like the idea of anything that will add strength to my hardshell. If you pick the wrong type of bowl.. you'll have problems cleaning it. I'm in agreement with Walace also. Check out the rest of the article below for more information. What is the difference with Plaste of paris? | Guide for Beginners. Moreover, ultracal is noncombustible. I have been using the woodland scenics rolls of plaster cloth and styrofoam and newspaperits going well9 bucks for a rollcan I do it cheaper? What is hydrocal? I will fill coffee cans and place in quart size plastic bags. You can use white glue, white flour, or Paris powder as a substitute for plaster. With a mold and plaster mix, anyone can replicate sculptures from antiquity, the Renaissance, or more modern . 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