We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. What do they mean hes just a decoy? There are cases like this all over the country. Its not free though. EXCLUSIVE: Murdered Delphi teens were intended victims of 'botched' child sex kidnap plot, cops believe - as investigators dig up DEAD CAT to match hairs found on girls to alleged killer's pet. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Unverified. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. Im leaving it at that. I thought there was more to this blog. I see T. Neighboring state. Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. The sheriffs deputy did not work on the case. Interesting. That makes no sense. Dorian Belecamus, a beautiful and bewitching archaeology professor, sees an opportunity to do more than dig into the past: this is her chance to seize control of her country's futureby becoming the Oracle of Delphi . Theyre not that common. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Resident of Delphi in 1984-85 at minimum. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. Could be to cover their own asses. So Mr. X did not ask him to search for his keys, he was officially asking to search for the girls according to ol Ronny boy. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. One daughter, estranged. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. Well, hes the right age anyway. Our reporting partners at WPTA in Fort Wayne spoke with IUPUI Professor and Director of the Forensic and Investigative Sciences Program John Goodpaster. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. Logan, who died on January 24, 2022, was never arrested or charged with the murders. How about never? There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. Latest: heartanium. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? Sectionals kicked off on Tuesday night for Indiana high school boys basketball teams! Why dont you do a show on our theories. The behavior of LE throughout the entirety of this case is, to put it as nicely as possible, questionable, and to state the truth, just plain stupid. Particularly this statement. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. That can only mean one thing. However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. Stop. Almost zero. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. You do a great job! Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. I believe Mr. X is the guy. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. Where did he get the food and what was the food? A pair of binoculars. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Im confused. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: He may well have had a deer blind on the Mears property. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the two girls killed in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. Ages approximate. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Missing Nevada Woman Stopped Contact with Family, Police Seek Tips, Unknown Man Seen Using Missing Georgia Mans Credit Card in Baton Rouge, WATCH LIVE: Murdaugh Family Murders Day 25: Closing Arguments, subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. That is when they discovered Klines fake anthony_shots profile, soliciting minor girls online. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German disappeared from the Delphi Historic trails while taking an afternoon stroll on Feb. 13, 2018, as previously reported. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Its buried under settlement and underbrush. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana . Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. You might consider joining us in our private group. Thanks. It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. He just wanted dirty pictures. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. However, I do not believe it was sexually motivated, but believe theres potential for multiple motives. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. Anyway, where you at with this case now? Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. He is not connected to this case in any way, but he helped provide context into how police connected a bullet found at the murder scene to the suspect in this case. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. Hi folks. Email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. INDIANAPOLIS Indiana State Police say his personal pictures were used to lure young girls - a cop, victimized in a catfish scheme and suddenly thrust into the Delphi murders investigation. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. Or wet sneaker. I am trying to be vague. They think he did it, but as far as real, good, hard evidence that will stand up in court, theres not a lot there. Did he eat? It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. Stupid, stupid, stupid. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. All rights reserved. Mr. Lindsay, For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. Have for a long time. Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Rumor is that Abbys was pink. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. Items known to be carried or worn by BG at the time of crime: Loaded handgun in right jacket pocket, type unknown, possibly a rare .40mm collectors item. Great to see you back on the case! What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. Just another character who got caught with CP. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . Some claims are listed as unverified. This is a community where we can speak openly about the murders of Libby and Abby while searching for justice. Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. Isnt that logical. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. No, LK is the real deal. Who are you friends with. Few of the illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched the real truth about this case as laid out in this website, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Copyright 2022 WPTA. This is what happened. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. I have an official case document here in my hand. Almost three years later, it's a mystery that still haunts the small town of Delphi, Indiana while police say the killer may walk among them. Also how about this? Someone driving from Laporte to either of these places would very likely pass through Kingsbury on a normal trek not involving abduction and murder. She described his eyes as dark and evil. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. But know, this is deliberate. You cannot keep your own story straight. Young girls menstrual cycles can be so messed up until possibly a few years later. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? Unfortunately, its not free. 2-13 again. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. I think I talked to one of her friends like I told them. So who is Mr. X? Im so sorry. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. Because that is a deer kit around his waist. Why on Earth would someone stay next to their truck all through one evening and night through the next early AM and morning into the afternoon? Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. Note that it was parked in head first. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. By the way, whats a legitimate journalist? Whats a illegitimate journalist? Theres no such thing as either. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. What are they doing to move this forward? Delphi murders: Family of James Chadwell says he is 'absolutely capable' of killing 2 teens He reappeared on radar last month when charged with kidnapping, attempted murder of 9-year-old. Theres just journalists. The recently-released interview transcripts happened after Kline was interrogated by an Indiana state trooper and a sheriffs deputy on August 18, 2020. The only case I am familiar with is the Bittaker-Norris Murders in Southern California. I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. I came to Delphi, Indiana to retrace the murder of Libby and Abby.More videos on My Second Channel - https://www.youtube.com/mobileinstinct2My T-Shirts & Swe. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. Wheres the rest of it? Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. I dont know why that stood out to me. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. That is all it can possibly be. We do indeed have documents from the case. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. Give it a rest, everyone. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? They said, Hes just a decoy. But we dont know what that means. He will crack soon. Theres no woman among them. Privacy Policy. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. Latest: Hope32. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. In August 2020, more than three years after Abigail Williams and Liberty German were found murdered in Delphi, Ind., Feb. 14, 2017, police questioned Kegan Kline about his conversations with. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. LE still has access to the conviction. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. Trials. 11) I see his home. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? Scroll down and read https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. This family member may maintain a different surname, by generation, but they are in fact, related! Got it? Give it a rest, dammit! How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! Kelsi German has been cleared. But I see the home is raised. 1 minute ago. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. I dont get it. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Please email if you do not want to reply here. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. You just dont know what a person is capable of. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. Currently Awaiting Trial. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. An amateurs look into what profiling techniques could tell us about the murderer of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.Not looking to monetise this dreadful. I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? Allen, who has entered . You dont have LE sources. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. His wife has taken to social media lately, pleading with people to stop harassing them and insisting he had nothing to do with this crime. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the . Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. But no, that was not the case. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! This has been misrepresented by doubters as the scanner saying to let Mrs. X into the sealed off area because shes bringing Mr. X his keys. Although his face isnt clear in the picture, it was enough to give authorities a general description. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #162. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Indiana State. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. Not even Becky Patty and she was probably more devastated than anyone and probably still is. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. not sure I agree . It is certainly an interesting question, is it not? IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. Novella Nedeff, a clinical associate professor at Indiana University's McKinney School of Law, said sealing court records after a defendant is in custody is unprecedented to her, and speculated. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. Hes been on my radar for a long time now. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. The LE source didnt work on the case. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? If it was Abbys phone this would imply she had a phone, he somehow got her number, he connected to a cell tower to send media, and then he took the phone. Who says those videos are from him? The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. 'A. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. 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